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		<title>By: Spring brings lots to do &#124; Farm Folly</title>
		<link>http://farmfolly.com/2010/03/digging-up-grub-hoes/comment-page-1/#comment-107659</link>
		<dc:creator>Spring brings lots to do &#124; Farm Folly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tilled up several garden beds by hand with his grub hoe. He said the soil broke up beautifully. These beds have been in use for several years now, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tilling with a grub hoe &#124; Farm Folly</title>
		<link>http://farmfolly.com/2010/03/digging-up-grub-hoes/comment-page-1/#comment-77164</link>
		<dc:creator>Tilling with a grub hoe &#124; Farm Folly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 03:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rain finally let up for enough days in a row that I went out with my new grub hoes to try tilling over a garden bed. I dug a 4&#8242;x20&#8242; bed using the 4&#8243; grub hoe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rain finally let up for enough days in a row that I went out with my new grub hoes to try tilling over a garden bed. I dug a 4&#8242;x20&#8242; bed using the 4&#8243; grub hoe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebuilding a BCS two-wheel tractor &#124; Farm Folly</title>
		<link>http://farmfolly.com/2010/03/digging-up-grub-hoes/comment-page-1/#comment-60677</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebuilding a BCS two-wheel tractor &#124; Farm Folly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 08:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] time preparing garden beds by hand and more time working on the house. Yes, this goes against my enthusiasm for digging hoes, but time vs. money trade-offs are a fact of life on a homestead. Last summer we [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] time preparing garden beds by hand and more time working on the house. Yes, this goes against my enthusiasm for digging hoes, but time vs. money trade-offs are a fact of life on a homestead. Last summer we [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://farmfolly.com/2010/03/digging-up-grub-hoes/comment-page-1/#comment-12232</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 05:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Capital-L Lee, :)

Thanks for another recommendation for Rogue hoes.  Definitely have to get one some day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Capital-L Lee, <img src='http://farmfolly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for another recommendation for Rogue hoes.  Definitely have to get one some day!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m presently using a Rogue field hoe to break new ground here in Alabama.  Although it&#039;s as dense as cheese and as heavy as clay, this fine tool is making quick work of it.  Rogue hoes also makes many other implements from cultivator blades.  The scuffle hoes are the best tool going for weeding quickly--my wife actually enjoys the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m presently using a Rogue field hoe to break new ground here in Alabama.  Although it&#8217;s as dense as cheese and as heavy as clay, this fine tool is making quick work of it.  Rogue hoes also makes many other implements from cultivator blades.  The scuffle hoes are the best tool going for weeding quickly&#8211;my wife actually enjoys the process.</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron, wow, thanks for all the ideas.  I&#039;m presently trying to figure out how to adjust our garden bed layout so I can line the tractor up with any row.  We switched to east/west rows this year, and unfortunately the gates are at the north and south.  To the east is a line of blueberry plants, and to the west is a fence.  Hmm ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron, wow, thanks for all the ideas.  I&#8217;m presently trying to figure out how to adjust our garden bed layout so I can line the tractor up with any row.  We switched to east/west rows this year, and unfortunately the gates are at the north and south.  To the east is a line of blueberry plants, and to the west is a fence.  Hmm &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my beds set up 4&#039; wide, with 2&#039; paths between them. Three years ago, we used the fork I bought from Lee Valley tools (after breaking a cheapo one while removing a stump...) to loosen up the soil. The concrete contractor who poured the slab our house is on had compacted the soil badly. So, we punched a few thousand holes, painstakingly, through the hardpan. Just a plain fork, not a broad fork. Added a lot of manure on top, and lots of leaves.

Now, 3 years later, I really don&#039;t much bother to loosen the soil. It&#039;s pretty much loose enough as-is... the plants don&#039;t seem to mind. I can easily take a trowel and push it up to the hilt, where before I could hardly make a dent. (There are interesting reads on Mother Earth news regarding soil health and tilling).

As far as mulch in general... I don&#039;t have slugs. The wood ashes I use might help with that. I do have voles, which will chew on my potatoes. And I have squash bugs in a bad way... although the existing mulch in the forest around us guarantees they will do just fine, mulch or not (trying lemon balm this year to repel). There are more insects in general with the mulch.... thousands of spiders... most don&#039;t harm my crops though. Also, I&#039;ve used plain old oak leaves so far, and on a windy day they can blow around, smothering small seedlings. My plan is to shred them and see how well that works. As far as weeding, it does help a lot to use the mulch. Weeds mainly grow wherever I have bare ground, and once they have a foothold they spread. 

I can see where a different climate may make the mulch more of a problem though, depending on what sorts of pests there are. 

I&#039;m really getting into these Fergusons too. I really like the fact that I am finding a lot of aftermarket parts that are inexpensive so I can fix mine up. I have a pond scoop that attaches to the 3-pt... my plan is to haul compost that way, straddling my beds... or maybe pulling my utility trailer (4 1/2&#039; wide) over the beds. Either way... a lot easier than using a wheelbarrow, like I have so far!

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my beds set up 4&#8242; wide, with 2&#8242; paths between them. Three years ago, we used the fork I bought from Lee Valley tools (after breaking a cheapo one while removing a stump&#8230;) to loosen up the soil. The concrete contractor who poured the slab our house is on had compacted the soil badly. So, we punched a few thousand holes, painstakingly, through the hardpan. Just a plain fork, not a broad fork. Added a lot of manure on top, and lots of leaves.</p>
<p>Now, 3 years later, I really don&#8217;t much bother to loosen the soil. It&#8217;s pretty much loose enough as-is&#8230; the plants don&#8217;t seem to mind. I can easily take a trowel and push it up to the hilt, where before I could hardly make a dent. (There are interesting reads on Mother Earth news regarding soil health and tilling).</p>
<p>As far as mulch in general&#8230; I don&#8217;t have slugs. The wood ashes I use might help with that. I do have voles, which will chew on my potatoes. And I have squash bugs in a bad way&#8230; although the existing mulch in the forest around us guarantees they will do just fine, mulch or not (trying lemon balm this year to repel). There are more insects in general with the mulch&#8230;. thousands of spiders&#8230; most don&#8217;t harm my crops though. Also, I&#8217;ve used plain old oak leaves so far, and on a windy day they can blow around, smothering small seedlings. My plan is to shred them and see how well that works. As far as weeding, it does help a lot to use the mulch. Weeds mainly grow wherever I have bare ground, and once they have a foothold they spread. </p>
<p>I can see where a different climate may make the mulch more of a problem though, depending on what sorts of pests there are. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m really getting into these Fergusons too. I really like the fact that I am finding a lot of aftermarket parts that are inexpensive so I can fix mine up. I have a pond scoop that attaches to the 3-pt&#8230; my plan is to haul compost that way, straddling my beds&#8230; or maybe pulling my utility trailer (4 1/2&#8242; wide) over the beds. Either way&#8230; a lot easier than using a wheelbarrow, like I have so far!</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Leigh&lt;/strong&gt; - I&#039;m trying to acquire the right tools so I can find the true zen of the hoe.  This state of transcendence seems a common thread among gardening authors I like--the ability to keep vast stretches of land weed-free with this solitary tool.  I&#039;m also very interested in trying some dry gardening this summer.  It&#039;s essential to keep the weeds down in this case, because they&#039;ll steal water your plants need, but as the top layer of soil dries out you should have fewer and fewer weeds.  Of course, this is a somewhat Oregon-specific strategy, as it only rained twice that we remembered all last summer.

&lt;strong&gt;Ron&lt;/strong&gt; - I have to admit I might be turning into something of a Ferguson-holic.  The TO-20 is a pretty easy tractor to find parts for (or whole tractors on Craigslist), but it&#039;s manufacturer is unknown enough to be pretty unique too.  I wouldn&#039;t mind having a second one as a backup, perhaps with a front scoop ...

I&#039;ve read that the Ruth Stout method doesn&#039;t work well here in Oregon.  We don&#039;t get hard long freezes in the winter, so the mulch builds up summer pests and provides a moist nesting site for slugs.  Oregon is the land of the slug.  My source is Steve Solomon, author of a series of books focused on our specific climate and founder of our local &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.territorialseed.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Territorial Seed Company&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;ll probably give it a try anyway on a few trial plots some day.  This year we are going to try mulch in the paths and we&#039;ll be watching for slugs.

I&#039;m working my way into no-till, but we need to establish some defined rows and paths where we can sufficiently loosen the soil.  Do you use a broadfork?  If we get the garden where I want to have it by the end of the year, we&#039;ll probably need to get one for next season.

Lee Valley has great tools and I admired a number of their garden tools before making my purchase.  I&#039;ve purchased woodworking hand tools and sharpening equipment from them before, and it has always been top-notch.

&lt;strong&gt;Karl&lt;/strong&gt; - I looked at Rogue as well online.  They seemed to have very nice American-made equipment, but I wanted a more traditional shape for these specific tools.  Probably a bad reason.  I wouldn&#039;t mind having one someday.

I&#039;m going to see how far I can take the no-till route before spending money for a tiller.  None of my relatives use this method, so it is something of an experiment to see how it goes.  My parents had an old TroyBilt Horse tiller when I was growing up, and I still watch for sales of them on Craigslist.  It was a great tiller, all cast steel, with a transmission and PTO drive system like a small tractor.  I&#039;m a big fan of sturdy old equipment made from cast steel.  (See above comments about TO-20.)  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Leigh</strong> &#8211; I&#8217;m trying to acquire the right tools so I can find the true zen of the hoe.  This state of transcendence seems a common thread among gardening authors I like&#8211;the ability to keep vast stretches of land weed-free with this solitary tool.  I&#8217;m also very interested in trying some dry gardening this summer.  It&#8217;s essential to keep the weeds down in this case, because they&#8217;ll steal water your plants need, but as the top layer of soil dries out you should have fewer and fewer weeds.  Of course, this is a somewhat Oregon-specific strategy, as it only rained twice that we remembered all last summer.</p>
<p><strong>Ron</strong> &#8211; I have to admit I might be turning into something of a Ferguson-holic.  The TO-20 is a pretty easy tractor to find parts for (or whole tractors on Craigslist), but it&#8217;s manufacturer is unknown enough to be pretty unique too.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind having a second one as a backup, perhaps with a front scoop &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that the Ruth Stout method doesn&#8217;t work well here in Oregon.  We don&#8217;t get hard long freezes in the winter, so the mulch builds up summer pests and provides a moist nesting site for slugs.  Oregon is the land of the slug.  My source is Steve Solomon, author of a series of books focused on our specific climate and founder of our local <a href="http://www.territorialseed.com/" rel="nofollow">Territorial Seed Company</a>.  I&#8217;ll probably give it a try anyway on a few trial plots some day.  This year we are going to try mulch in the paths and we&#8217;ll be watching for slugs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working my way into no-till, but we need to establish some defined rows and paths where we can sufficiently loosen the soil.  Do you use a broadfork?  If we get the garden where I want to have it by the end of the year, we&#8217;ll probably need to get one for next season.</p>
<p>Lee Valley has great tools and I admired a number of their garden tools before making my purchase.  I&#8217;ve purchased woodworking hand tools and sharpening equipment from them before, and it has always been top-notch.</p>
<p><strong>Karl</strong> &#8211; I looked at Rogue as well online.  They seemed to have very nice American-made equipment, but I wanted a more traditional shape for these specific tools.  Probably a bad reason.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind having one someday.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to see how far I can take the no-till route before spending money for a tiller.  None of my relatives use this method, so it is something of an experiment to see how it goes.  My parents had an old TroyBilt Horse tiller when I was growing up, and I still watch for sales of them on Craigslist.  It was a great tiller, all cast steel, with a transmission and PTO drive system like a small tractor.  I&#8217;m a big fan of sturdy old equipment made from cast steel.  (See above comments about TO-20.)  <img src='http://farmfolly.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our tiller is a&lt;b&gt; Husqvarna Tiller 700DRT Dual Rotating Tiller Cultivator&lt;/b&gt; and we love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our tiller is a<b> Husqvarna Tiller 700DRT Dual Rotating Tiller Cultivator</b> and we love it.</p>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have one decent hoe. it is made by rogue. hardened farm implement grade steel. tabitha won&#039;t pick up another hoe. we use a combination of tilling mulching and hoeing--it still isn&#039;t enough..

the hoes are very cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have one decent hoe. it is made by rogue. hardened farm implement grade steel. tabitha won&#8217;t pick up another hoe. we use a combination of tilling mulching and hoeing&#8211;it still isn&#8217;t enough..</p>
<p>the hoes are very cool.</p>
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